Plusses and minuses in both reports.
Apple FQ1 18 – relief rally
- Apple reported good results where a 14.5% increase in iPhone ASPs allowed revenues to remain strong despite weakness in volume shipments.
- FQ1 18 revenues / EPS were $88.3bn / $3.89 beating expectations of $87.6bn / $3.85.
- The main driver was once again the iPhone which shipped 77.3m units missing expectations of 80.2m units by 4%.
- This was more than made up by a 14.5% increase in ASPs to $796 which is what drove revenues to beat the bullish expectations set before weakness in iPhone X shipments become apparent.
- This effect however will not carry through into FQ2 18 as Apple is forecasting revenues of $60bn-$62bn some 7% below expectations of $65.6bn.
- Apple also said that in FQ2 18 that iPhone revenues would increase by at least 10% in an attempt to sooth fears with regards to iPhone X demand.
- I think that this is a statement of the obvious as Apple has a 15% YoY increase in ASPs to play with meaning that shipments can still decline YoY in order to make this guidance.
- iPhone X demand clearly been softer than expected mostly due to the very high price being demanded for the product and I think that this form factor will fare much better once Apple pushes it into its cheaper products and works out how to get rid of the notch.
- With these results and the outlook for FY 2018, I think that Apple has done enough to qualm the fears of long-term holders but at the same time, I don’t see new money rushing into the company.
- Hence, I think this one will perform broadly in line with the sector this year.
Amazon Q4 17
- Amazon reported another mighty quarter and one in which it managed to make some money despite its very aggressive push into India.
- Q4 17 revenues / adj-EPS were $60.5bn / $2.19 compared to consensus at $59.8bn / $1.83.
- AWS was once again the powerhouse of profit generation with growth at 45% and margins holding steady at 26%.
- It is worth noting that Microsoft is closing some of the gap on Amazon, as it managed to grow 98% YoY in the last 12 months albeit from a much lower base.
- I suspect that it is this pressure that is preventing AWS from making the most of its scale and increasing its profitability as its revenues expand.
- Most of AWS’ profits were consumed by the very aggressive market grab going on overseas and particularly in India.
- Losses were approximately the same in Q4 17 at $919m (-5%) as they were in Q3 17 $936m (-7%) where I estimate that India is losing roughly $700m per quarter.
- However, the domestic business generated $1.7bn in EBIT which allowed Amazon to report better than expected profits company wide.
- Amazon is also clearly feeling the heat from Google which pulled out all the stops at CES and backed that up with a big jump in support from makers of smart home devices.
- The result is that Amazon will be ramping up investments in the Alexa voice platform, but money alone will not buy the brain power needed to keep Google at bay.
- I have recently reversed my position on the battle for the smart home (see here and here) with Google Assistant now looking like it will eventually win.
- Pressure on AWS and Alexa is one thing, but the core business is going from strength to strength and there seems to be very little to challenge Amazon in e-commerce in developed markets.
- That being said, I still struggle with the valuation of Amazon given its distain for making money and consequently it is still not a story I want to get involved in long-term.
- If push came to shove, I would have Apple over Amazon.
Blog Comments
Tim Nash
February 2, 2018 at 2:13 pm
Given the China numbers from Strategy Analytics, -16% for last quarter smartphone sales, and that Apple needed to increase sales by 7% to break even with the 14 week quarter last year, it looks like a very solid quarter for Apple. Having no US tax charge against the figures (unlike Microsoft and Alphabet) helps too.
windsorr
February 2, 2018 at 2:44 pm
indeed solid numbers… greatly helped by ASPs..
Colin
February 2, 2018 at 10:18 pm
I don’t think you can surmise that iPhone X demand was softer than Apple expected based on a volume comparison with the previous year.
It shipped on 4th November, so was available for 9 weeks of Apple’s Q1. The iPhone 6S and 7 both shipped in September and were available for 12 and 13 weeks respectively. In his conference call, Tim Cook stated that iPhone X reached supply and demand balance at the end of January. The X outsold the 8s, so it appears that Apple could have sold many more Xs if they’d been shipping throughout the quarter.
windsorr
February 5, 2018 at 9:05 am
yes you can… look at the uptake of iPhone X vs older models. It was weaker. I did this analysis some time ago..
Colin
February 6, 2018 at 3:14 pm
This isn’t a picture of falling demand:
http://www.asymco.com/2018/02/05/apple-remarks-to-investors-in-fq1-2018-earnings-conference-call-categorized-and-annotated/
iPhone average weekly volume was up 6%. Pretty good considering iPhone X was the top seller, wasn’t available for 4 weeks of the quarter and sells for over three times the industry average price.